‘I’ve got solicitor apprenticeship offers from two Magic Circle firms and a top US firm – how do I choose?’

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In our latest Career Conundrum, a soon-to-be solicitor apprentice finds themselves in the enviable position of choosing between three offers from Magic Circle and US firms.

“Hello Legal Cheek. I have been lucky enough to receive three offers for a solicitor apprenticeship, one US law firm and the other two are members of the Magic Circle. I’d prefer not to name them if that’s ok. Basically I am struggling to decide between the three. Pay and training structure seem very similar but I wondered if your readers had any insights into the Magic Circle versus US law firms, especially from a training/apprenticeship perspective?”

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12 Comments

Grad wrecked

I’d probably advise going for one of the MC firms. They’re known for having solid training and development compared to US firms which tend to be a little more informal/on the job.

Anonymous

Can I borrow a tenner?

Luciano Pavarotti

Yes.

Becca

Try and understand their working styles, if possible. Legal Cheek do great “training contract” analyses of different firms to help you understand the profile and pace of work. See if you can find something similar for this US firm. Working culture at US law firms can be gruelling, typically more than UK-based, so I would also assess whether that’s something you would enjoy or avoid.

Also, rather than looking at just the firms, look at their specialisms. Which firm does more of the kind of work you would aspire to? Are they all more M&Aish or does one of them also do Private Client, for example (if that was your interest).

Well done you

For training contracts I’d say coin-toss between MC and US but for something as long and as training-based as an apprenticeship I would opt for MC: bigger headcount in London means more opportunities to try different work. Unless you have a super-specific idea of what you want to do (which I advise against when aged 18!) I would go MC, and ideally choose the MC that has the better rep for either transactional/disputes depending on what you think you might prefer. No biggie then if you change your mind on interests.

Mr B Fawlty, esq.

Many congratulations on getting the offers. The apprenticeship model is so exciting for the profession and it’s great to see students starting to get offers and get into the building.

For something where you’ll be joining most likely straight from school, and you’re stuck there for 6 years, I think the MC offers are the obvious decision here. They have a long history of offering the best quality of training and they have the biggest infrastructural resources at their fingertips in terms of L&D, HR support etc which are all going to be really important for apprentices.

Within the two MC offers, I think it’s important to trust your gut (as nebulous as that sounds) – don’t get distracted by which has a flashier office, or which has the best merch/marketing materials. I also wouldn’t get too hung up on the idea of one being a firm which does more in X area than Y area at your stage – the training you get will be exceptional across the board regardless and there’s plenty of time in your career for moving to firms that are super specialist in an area you become interested in.

Get a read off of the people you speak to – do they seem to enjoy their work? Do they seem to have good relationships with colleagues? What types and forms of support (particularly informal support) are the firms offering you throughout your apprenticeship? These are all the things that are going to have a massive impact on your day to day life and general levels of happiness over the next few years and the things you should put at the top of your priorities list when making this decision.

Whatever you go for, wishing you the absolute best of luck with your apprenticeship.

Anonymous

MC firm: High client service standards, attentive and extremely thorough training, extensive (sometimes brutal) feedback. More predictable hours, but more hierarchal and a more formal, structured approach to training.

US firm: Still high client service standards and great training, but to a lesser degree. More demanding in terms of hours and expectations to just “get things done”. Less predictable hours, still hierarchal but to a lesser extent, slightly less formal and more “entrepreneurial”. Generally less secondment opportunities but some people do not care about that.

I have worked at both.

7 years' PQE

Already covered my intended points but for something as long as an apprenticeship I’d take one of the MC options.

Anon

I would 100% do a SA at a Magic Circle firm, the headcount and breadth of work will be bigger and the training and support is heavily invested in – plus they have very large trainee cohorts so lawyers are just used to having lots of juniors involved on deals that they have to teach, every department will have multiple trainees that you can learn alongside and get support from etc.

Alan

Easy, do none. Go to university, get an education and become a real lawyer not a woke excuse for a lawyer.

Anyone advising otherwise should be thoroughly ashamed of misleading an impressionable young person.

US mid level, trained at US

Definitely MC. Appreciate this question is targeted at solicitor apprenticeships, but the same advice applies to training contracts too.

The post tax pay difference between MC firms and US firms at the trainee – 2PQE level is pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things, especially when performance based bonuses at MC firms are taken into account.

If you decide a few years down the line that you want to make the switch (as an increasing number of people do, particularly in the MC > US direction), it’s much easier to move from a MC to a US firm at the junior/mid level, than it is the other way round. MC firms take on an army of trainees every year and have pretty high retention rates, so there is much less demand for lateral hires at the junior/mid level as compared to US firms.

My personal view is:
– MC firms have, generally speaking, being running training contract (and perhaps solicitor apprenticeship ?) programmes longer than US firms, and so the their training is more structured as opposed to the more ad hoc “learn on the job” US style;

– MC firms typically have larger trainee intakes and so there is a higher likelihood that trainees’ holidays will be respected as compared to the smaller US outfits;

– whether rightly or wrongly, the magic circle “brand” carries a historical weight even outside of the legal industry, which arguably makes moving in-house easier at the junior level if that’s what you decide to do. Though TBC how long that continues to be true, considering the rising dominance of US firms in the London market; and

– if you are hoping to do a secondment, your chances of going on a secondment are generally higher at a MC firm than at a US firm.

All of those points are of course huge generalisations, and there are nuances depending on which specific firms you have offers from and what practice area you end up qualify into etc. I would just say that your quality of life at a MC firm as a junior is likely going to be better than your counterparts at US firms and so, in the absence of a compelling reason otherwise, I’d go with MC.

Roe Cade

TLDR answer:

MC first – take your pick between them (they are all relatively equal, go with which one you like best)

US can come later (if that is what you want)

that is tried and tested and looks not not gona change anytime soon

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